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Powdersville residents vote to halt Powdersville Planning Group
by Nathan DiBagno
Oct 22, 2010 | 3901 views | 9 9 comments | 35 35 recommendations | email to a friend | print
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POWDERSVILLE — Powdersville resident and business owner Steve Cooper took the reins Friday as the chairman of the Powdersville Planning Group advisory board and led the way toward putting an end to the whole process.

It was the second joint meeting between the Powdersville Planning Group and its advisory board at the Powdersville Library. Unlike the first meeting, the meeting room was packed and most in attendance seemed eager to put a stop to the whole plan.

Members of the original Powdersville Planning Group said their goal was to seek ways to improve S.C. 153 and prepare it for the future, but many residents said they believed it had more to do with government control.

Powdersville Water District General Manager Dyke Spencer, the original proponent of the plan to improve 153, started by leading the meeting Friday and had an agenda prepared.

But Powdersville resident Leroy Walls motioned that Cooper be elected chairman of the advisory group, and the motion passed quickly.

Cooper didn’t hesitate to take control of the meeting, although Spencer remained standing the whole time.

Cooper said that during last month’s meeting, the citizens had been told they would be in charge. Cooper said everyone he talked to was concerned about the Powdersville Planning Group’s agenda, and that many worried that it would strip them of their property rights.

“That first meeting that we had at Wren, the whole issue was to control growth,” Cooper said.

Cooper also criticized the water district for having spent money on the original design process.

“What does this have to do with the water company?” he said.

Spencer answered that the water district has a capital improvement budget every year to help prepare for growth, and that since 153 is going to continue to be a high-growth area, the water district will have to continue to provide water for that area.

“It’s a whole lot easier to plan to put water lines in the right place, because otherwise we’re going to be putting water lines everywhere, and that’s a whole lot more expensive,” Spencer said.

Cooper retorted that “it doesn’t take rocket science” to know 153 is growing.

“This whole thing didn’t start about that. … This wasn’t nothing about what was going to come. This was about: we want to control growth. That’s not your job to control growth.”

Spencer answered, “It wasn’t about controlling growth. It was about planning for growth.”

Cooper said Spencer had gone beyond his bounds as water district general manager.

“Your charter is to furnish potable water,” Cooper said. “It’s not to control growth, and worry about affordable housing and transportation. That has nothing to do with the water company.”

Powdersville resident Jim Wilson said there are already government agencies in place to provide for transportation funding.

“All we need is one more bureaucratic government operation to keep our eyes on,” said Wilson. “I don’t know about y’all, but I can’t afford any more help.”

Cooper then made a motion to “suspend the project and these meetings indefinitely,” and hands went up all around the room, as the vast majority seemed in favor of scrapping the plan.

However, a few in the crowd of about 75 people supported the Powdersville Planning Group’s goal.

Powdersville resident Joyce Holcombe argued that she was worried about the traffic in the area, especially near the schools.

“I’m interested in the traffic flow on 153, because it’s horrendous,” she said. “And I’ve got a 15-year-old who’s getting his driving license, and I’m concerned for his safety.”

Several in attendance answered that they weren’t worried about traffic in the area.

Cooper said Powdersville has grown fine without zoning or incorporation.

Business owner Sean Thornton said he would rather someone “do something” to improve 153 and prepare for the future rather than do nothing.

Powdersville resident Gerald Taylor responded, “We’re doing fine the way we’re doing. It used to be that you could give a handshake and trust people 100 miles down the road. They could ride 20 miles, some of them riding a horse. … They would ride a horse to come take care of your friends and your neighbors. You didn’t need a law to sit in a school house to watch our kids – 7, 8, 9, 10 years old – to look for guns, knives, carry rifles to school. And now we’ve got to have them on every stinkin’ door.”

Thornton said, “I thought we were talking about trees and beautification.”

Taylor retorted, “No, you’re not talking about trees. You’re talking about control. Pure socialism.”

This wasn’t the first time Cooper had taken a major role like this.

Three years ago, he was one of the most outspoken critics when Anderson County Councilman Ron Wilson tried to incorporate zoning to Powdersville. Ron Wilson withdrew his original plan to incorporate zoning after a roomful of hundreds of people opposed it.

On Friday, several residents said they felt this plan was similar to zoning or incorporation.

Spencer replied that the plan didn’t have anything to do with zoning, and that there was no concrete plan set in place anyway.

“Nothing is set in place that anybody needs to be worried about right now,” Spencer said.

After the meeting, Spencer said he felt that the people had spoken loud and clear and showed they didn’t want the plan, but added that he would have to think about it more.

“I don’t know. I’m going to have to reflect on it,” he said.

Spencer said he’s been working on the plan with other members of the Powdersville Planning Group for about 10 months.

“I don’t think all is lost yet,” he said. “Whether these 40 people speak for this entire community, I don’t know that. They also need to realize that there are two other counties on this corridor. They have a completely different opinion.”

The original Powdersville Planning Group consisted of Spencer, Renewable Water Resources representative Ray Orvin, Duke Energy representative Mike Wilson, Anderson County Planning Director Bill West, Anderson County Transportation Director Holt Hopkins, Anderson County Planning Commission member Wes Hulsey, S.C. Department of Transportation Commissioner Eddie Adams, Appalachian Council of Governments representative Aliza Tourkow, Easley Combined Utilities General Manager Joey Ledbetter, City of Easley Administrator Fox Simons, Greenville County Planning representative Daniel McGee, state Rep. Dan Cooper, Anderson County Interim Administrator Rusty Burns and Pickens County Administrator Chap Hurst.

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alexdresko
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October 26, 2010
Almost forgot. I also live in Powdersville for the school system. Somehow, our little district is one of the best in the state, despite having spit out drones like you and I. :)
alexdresko
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October 26, 2010
Fact: That last post got flubbed a little. Was supposed to say, "You do, or did at one time, live...." :)
alexdresko
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October 26, 2010
Fact: You do live next door to Mr. Cooper, on Cooper Lane nonetheless. Now all of this makes sense and is even more irrelevant, fan boi.
JSM
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October 24, 2010
Grow I think the problem is that a lot of folks such as yourself seem to miss the point that the reason Powdersville is so great is the fact that we have always been able to do it our way. Quite frankly, we are afraid that if we turn the keys over to this great place then what we all know and love will be lost. In other words, why mess up a good thing? You moved here because you liked the place. You are now a member of the community and you love the place and the people even more, yet you want it to change? Just does not make a lot of sense to me.
GrowSmart
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October 24, 2010
JSM, we absolutley love living here in Powdersville. You are right, I am not 'originally' from here, but I call Powdersville home. I am a homewoner, and a business owner here in Powdersville. We support the schools here, the local businesses, and even our beloved church.

Hey, I don't know everybody in our community, but have met a lot of nice people here, both 'born and raised' folks, and 'transplants' like myself; we all have a desire to see Powdersville continue to be a great place to live and grow.

Thanks for the negative response... much appreciated! See you around town!

JSM
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October 23, 2010
Wow Alex that is some pretty big talk! "A crotchety old man" and "just goes to show how out of touch with reality he is". I venture to say that Mr. Cooper is more respected in the Powdersville community then you are now or will ever be and to take shots at a man that is so well respected on a website is pretty low. I was at the meeting on Friday, were you? I didn't see you there, I know you, in fact I went to school with you. If you have some ideas about how we could "fix the situation" why weren't you there to voice these wonderful opinions. Better yet I have an idea, I will arrange a sit down meeting between you and Mr. Cooper and you can tell him how irrelevant and out of touch with reality he is.

Please let me know if you are interested.

So back to the issues. After attacking Mr. Cooper you mention "ugly mulching companies on 81 and trailers stuffed between nicer houses." Perhaps you should first figure out what these meeting are all about. The grant that was applied for was to furnish money to the Powdersville community to build affordable housing. In other words, this has nothing to do with doing away with Willimons Mulch yard (since this is this is the only mulch yard on 81 I assume this is what you are talking about)or trailers anywhere, at least not yet. However if we allow the government to start dictating to us what we can do with our own property, who knows what is next. The next step could be to do away with rental properties which may leave you homeless.

I will offer the same advice to you as I offered to the other person but instead of buying I believe that you are a renter here in Powdersville. There are plenty of places you could rent elsewhere. Please let me know if you need help packing.

PS - I hear they are casting for a new teletubby cast in San Fransico maybe this would be a perfect place for you as I would imagine that you would fit right in.
alexdresko
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October 23, 2010
I love Powdersville, but I have to say, all this talk about "we've done fine so far" just isn't true. Lack of zoning and failure to plan is what leads to ugly mulching companies on 81 and trailers stuffed between nicer houses. Powdersville has so many nice qualities, but visually, it's not at all pleasant. Cooper is just a crotchety old man stuck in a time when his ideals actually mattered. To claim it's socialism is ridiculous and to try and bring relevancy between the water company and a beautification project just goes to show how out of touch with reality he is. Don't let the irrelevant folks stand in the way of fixing the situation.
JSM
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October 22, 2010
It sounds like you may be having some regrets. So if I may, let me offer some advice.

First, I am positive that there are plenty of nice houses in downtown Greenville, even closer to Lake Keowee/Clemson and the mountains. This could work out well for you as it is clearly a buyers market. Maybe the people in these areas will be smarter than the dumb old folks of Powdersville.

The next statement you make contradicts itself. So which is it? Is Powdersville a great community or is just a possibilty that one day it could be? I fall on the side of it being a great community. If you don't, maybe one of the places you mentioned (downtown Greenville, Lake Keowee/Clemson or the mountains) would be a better fit. I have a feeling you believe it is in fact a great community or you would not have moved here in the first place. So if this is the case, why in the world would you want to entrust the changing of this great community to a group of people that aren't even from Powdersville? Wait I just figured it out. You aren't from here either. You moved here to save us from ourselves. Thanks but no thanks.

GrowSmart
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October 22, 2010
We chose Powdersville because of the following; good schools, proximity to downtown Greenville, close to Lake Keowee/Clemson, close to the mountains, and the potential for smart growth.

Powdersville is and can be a great community, even town, if we allow growth to happen, and with proper planning. PLanning in SC, in general, is poor at best, so I think 'A Planning Group' is necessary, but with full representation from residents, business owners, school members, utilities, law enforcement, and EMS.

We will only get so much support from Anderson County; services are thin as it is. This is the time to make Powdersvile our own... 29642 is Powdersville, not Easley, not Greenville, not Piedmont. Don't be afraid to grow, or we will certainly die as a community.
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